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[Video clicks on, annnnnd... blue eyes, green suit (because Shenu burned his dress at last), this is definitely Valmont talking. He's sat at a desk in his office, his expression somewhat thoughtful. When he speaks however, his tone is businesslike.]



It has recently been pointed out to me that I'm coming up on the end of my seventh month here, and while I'm sure this is something of a popular sentiment here, I am tired. Tired of trying to redeem myself in a place where it is incredibly obvious that outside of my own warden, there isn't a single soul in this place with any concern for my well being.

This isn't a bid for sympathy, it's not even really a complaint, it's just something that has become impossible to ignore. The wardens are loyal to one another and to their own inmates, but the majority of us can not rely upon their support, their protection, or their ability to punish the crimes committed against us in any meaningful way.

[He gestures idly with one hand, it's almost a shrug. As if to say that he knows he isn't revealing anything new or shocking to anyone here, that this is all completely obvious to the Barge en masse.]

When someone here is murdered, the punishment is almost without exception, seven days in level zero, and a loss of privileges. Probably a thorough tongue lashing on top of that, but as we have seen over and over again, it hardly acts as a deterrent. How many inmates publicly confess to their crimes? Or volunteer to take the walk down to level zero themselves? The repercussions for our actions here are utterly insignificant, and until we can find an alternative to this? Until we can find some way of making the penalty for murder or assault significant? Life will remain cheap here. Suffering will remain cheap.

[Now he raises a hand, his expression becoming more direct. This isn't an emotional plea for support or human decency, it's an open proposition.]

All of that being said, I believe there is an alternative. If we cannot depend upon the wardens? Then we must create a situation in which we can depend on one another. A social contract within which malicious acts of violence have consequences, and in which we can take actions to protect ourselves and those around us.

[He drops his hand down again, and frowns, his expression mildly exasperated now.]

Honestly... I can't possibly be the only one here who is sick of being so utterly powerless?



[ooc: This is Valmont's very cautious way of testing the waters to see if anyone would like to start a gang. He's not actually THAT bothered by the fact that murder has no consequences here, but he is really really starting to get sick of not having any henchmen to beat up people who piss him off.]

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Date: 2011-08-08 03:58 am (UTC)
requiresssacrifice: (Rex - uh whateverrrrrrr)
From: [personal profile] requiresssacrifice
Not that I enjoy raining on your parade-- [This is a lie, he enjoys raining on all the parades ever.] but somebody tries to get the inmates to band together every few months, and it never succeeds.

I remember there was even an attempt at a committee meeting once...

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Date: 2011-08-08 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plz-gtfo-dragon.livejournal.com
I can sort of imagine that trying to control some of the people here is probably a little like attempting to herd cats, but fortunately this doesn't need to be a unanimously adopted scheme.

The fact that people here are so unwilling to cooperate with one another should actually make it easier in fact, since all it would take would be three or four people to organize and agree to back one another up, for anyone who targeted or attacked one of those people to be outnumbered by the others when held to account for his behavior.

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Date: 2011-08-08 04:16 am (UTC)
requiresssacrifice: (Rex - still a sociopath c:)
From: [personal profile] requiresssacrifice
Fair point. I was never one for teamwork, myself, [Which might be why he FAILS SO MUCH] but I wish you luck.

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And if you need to equip your group with any technology at all, I'm sure we could work out a deal.
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Date: 2011-08-08 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plz-gtfo-dragon.livejournal.com
Thank you, I really do appreciate the sentiment.

[Private]

Rest assured, any help given, you would be duly compensated for. I'll contact you if anything comes of this.

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[FILTER] To offset Mr. Doom and Gloom

Date: 2011-08-08 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefuckening.livejournal.com
A very sound idea, indeed! I, for one, grow weary of the shackles of Admiral-imposed impotence!
From: [identity profile] plz-gtfo-dragon.livejournal.com
[YOU DO NOT SEEM LIKE A GOOD GANG MEMBER CANDIDATE, WEIRDO.]

It seems to me that it's our own inaction that put us in this position, as much as anything else. We've been lulled into believing that the token punishments administered here are enough.

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Date: 2011-08-08 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefuckening.livejournal.com
[BUT HE CAN DO MAGIC, MOTHERFUCKER.]

Token? I've been without the full force of my magic since my arrival! That's cruel, that's unusual! Normally two traits I would admire, but... It's all... fucked up.

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Date: 2011-08-08 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifeafterhope.livejournal.com
As long as death isn't permanent, life will always be cheap. What kind of consequences are you imagining?

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Date: 2011-08-08 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plz-gtfo-dragon.livejournal.com
I beg to differ: as long as a death can be forgotten within a week, life will be cheap. There is no mourning here, no trial, no grieving family, and no death penalty hanging over us.

Still, there are things we can do that will last. Inflicting a slow healing injury, or destroying something of value to them perhaps.

[Or just having a group of people beat them savagely in a hallway, whatever.]

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Date: 2011-08-08 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifeafterhope.livejournal.com
An injury can also be forgotten within a week.

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Date: 2011-08-08 04:44 am (UTC)
truth_is_cold: (Default)
From: [personal profile] truth_is_cold
Vanessa is correct. As long as there's no permanent death, there's no way of silencing people.

[Haha he has a Braxiatel though. And he's sure he could come up with alternatives.

Note to self. Seek out Valmont in person.]

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Date: 2011-08-08 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plz-gtfo-dragon.livejournal.com
And who would they tell? Their wardens. Who will have us slapped on the wrist and put in level Zero for a week.

Personally, I think it would be worth it to be able to administer some true accountability around here.

[Valmont'll see you later bro \o ]

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Date: 2011-08-08 05:10 am (UTC)
truth_is_cold: (rhade - thoughtful)
From: [personal profile] truth_is_cold
[After he spoodles out of the infirmary, because apparently someone thought an assassination game was a fun idea.] Did you die or did you have a friend die?

Or are you generally offended by how affairs are conducted?

[He is, but for different non death-toll related reasons.]

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A USELESS COMMENT.

Date: 2011-08-08 08:00 am (UTC)
ifightfor: (on guard)
From: [personal profile] ifightfor
[Rinzler is watching this space for developments, YOU CAN BET YOUR BURNED DRESS ON IT.]

Date: 2011-08-08 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] equalsfive.livejournal.com
Life has always been cheap. People have always been powerless.

Nothing here is new.

Date: 2011-08-08 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plz-gtfo-dragon.livejournal.com
Yes, yes, thank you, Mr. 1984, for your spirited contribution to the discussion.

Date: 2011-08-08 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] equalsfive.livejournal.com
Oh, yes, because any actual point I'm making is somehow undermined by the fact that... what, you can call me 'Mr 1984' and get away with it?

Comrade, it's the truth. Any supposed 'value' given to life is given by humans deluding themselves that their tiny little ownlives have meaning. Any true power is non-existent to individuals. We can grasp and grasp, but it is never real.

And any effort to do something? Is futile. It's banging your head against a brick wall, and that comrade, is ultimately powerless.

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Date: 2011-08-08 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veni-vidi-valui.livejournal.com
Absolutely... A collegium would be most agreeable, given our situation.

Date: 2011-08-08 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plz-gtfo-dragon.livejournal.com
Shall I take that as a vote of interest then, Miss...?

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Date: 2011-08-08 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] consultcriminal.livejournal.com
Depending on each other is risky, considering that most cannot be trusted.

[Sigh.] Buuuuuut...

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Date: 2011-08-08 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plz-gtfo-dragon.livejournal.com
In previous organizations of this nature which I've been party too, the betrayal of your colleagues trust would generally come with some token penalty.

To ensure the loyalty of those involved, of course.

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Date: 2011-08-08 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] consultcriminal.livejournal.com
I suppose so. But you're proposing some sort of hierarchy, then? Where one or two are above the rest?

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Date: 2011-08-09 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharpememory.livejournal.com
I really wish I had my power back. It's so unfair that they can just take them away.

Date: 2011-08-09 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com
Some of us do not need the approval of others. We can find such power and comfort within ourselves.
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